Two pocket watches

Two pocket watches, the first in gold, the exterior with engraved design of stars and swirls, opening to reveal a white enamelled dial with blued steel hands and subsidiary seconds dial, to a fancy link watch chain, length 6.2cm including suspension hoop, dial signed Elgin, case interior numbered 4541410, case; the other of white base metal, the silvered dial with subsidiary seconds dial and steel hands, length 6.3cm including suspension hoop, dial signed IWC Türler, fitted case stamped Türler